Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Watching for first time. Iirc, Kid Buu was even weaker than Fat Buu, but was insanely destructive to the point where he seemingly came out ahead. Super buu had a lot of power at his disposal, but he absorbed a lot of good people who probably have influence on him. Super Buu is the combination of Good Buu and Evil Buu (or Gray Buu) meaning he’s basically the same strength as Majin Buu but he has full access to all of his power rather … i think that super buu is stronger but a fight thats different super buu is stronger but i think kid buu would win in a fight. Gohan Buu 2. Super buu stomps round 1. The part about his power going up when he turns into Kid Buu is a translation error, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, A subreddit for all things Dragon Ball! The typical progression with transforming villains, as with Frieza and Cell, is that each time they change, they grow stronger. There's multiple indications that Kid Buu is stronger than Goku. Super Buu and Fat Buu wanted to fight strong opponents and could at least be reasoned with somewhat, so they weren't as dangerous, but they're still both stronger than Kid Buu… Here I explain why Kid Buu is the strongest non-fused Buu rather than Super Buu. Every other time Buu absorbed someone he got more powerful. Pure Buu is definitely weaker, his power comes from the fact that he can blow up a planet without second thought, absorbing people, and infinite stamina. People get confused because Old Kai says that Buu got weaker from absorbing the other Kais in the English Dub, but I don't think this was stated in the manga, and it is nonsensical. every absorbed being made him stronger. Also, I know that Fat Buu and Super Buu are made of the same beings, but so are Gogeta and Veku. i think that super buu is stronger but a fight thats different super buu is stronger but i think kid buu … To bad we never got to see Huge Buu in action since it was said Huge Buu was stronger then Super Buu. The thing about Super Buu is that he has a conscience, which gives him the cognitive process to consider proving himself to be the strongest in the universe (which we see with Super Buu’s plan to absorb Gotenks to prove himself to be stronger than the recently awakened power of Potential Unleashed Gohan) However, Kid Buu has barely any sent I don't understand how viewers struggle with this. So this also says that even though Kid Buu is much stronger than he was a birth, he is still weaker than Super Buu. Even with the combined might of the Present Z Fighters and their future allies, Future Kid Buu was not defeated until a Family Kamehameha or a Super Spirit Bomb (made of the energy gathered from people from Earth, New Namek, and Other World) was launched at him. Due to the power-ups he received from Gohan and Gotenks and the boost to his intelligence he gained from Piccolo, Super Buu was stronger than ever. But then he loses another absorption that was making him stronger, so Buu's power lowered again, this time further than when he started. If anything Super Buu is the one that’s twice as strong as Kid Buu. We haven't even gotten into the comparison between Gohan, Goku and Gotenks. Buff Buu is stronger than Kid Buu by estimate SSJ Gohan's power. A lot of people say Kid Buu is the strongest Buu period. Power wise, he's weaker than every form of Evil Buu ("Super" Buu), Mr buu is the only buu weaker than kid buu. Goku only admits that he could’ve beaten Fat Buu, but never says anything about Super Buu or the other ones. So yeah, thats enough proof to me that kid buu is stronger than super buu and is the strongest buu. SS3 is about equal in raw strength to Kid Buu, but has serious stamina issues whereas Kid Buu has unlimited energy. There are two reasons Kid Buu is often mistakenly perceived as being stronger than Super Buu. Bakercat. Weaker, yet much much more unpredictable and therefore dangerous. … The first was the Dai Kaioushin, whose goodness and gentleness weakened Buu overall, and with his influence fading, he reverted to South Kaioushin Buu, and this is confirmed by the conversation Rou Kaioushin and Kibitoshin had at the time. Piccolo Buu 6. You're missing the key fact that there was a transformation in between that is noted. Unlike his present counterpart who is weaker than Super Buu, Future Kid Buu is even stronger than Super Buu (w/ Gohan absorbed) and Super Janemba. Thats an interesting turn of events! discord.gg/dbz, Press J to jump to the feed. It took the power of Super Saiyan Vegito (the Potara fusion of Goku and Vegeta) for Super Buu to be sufficiently challenged. No. Weaker, but he was more dangerous because of his tendency to make planets explode when he gets bored. Super Buu is significantly stronger than Kid Buu. And super buu is the strongest because he has the dao kai's powers all along but he was more evil in the sense than fat buu? He was the most dangerous because he was a mindless monster. Shouldnt fat buu be stronger in power than kid buu cuz he absorbed dao kai? It was at that time that it was noted his ki was increasing rather than decreasing, as the Dai Kaioushin's weakening influence disappeared. I orginally thought Super Buu was stronger but rewatching kai in subs it they clearly saying Kid Buu is the strongest form. So it's like subtracting a negative number. Super Buuhan would completely beat the living daylights out of Super Janemba until there was nothing left of him. Hm…. Like, Its still a MASSIVE jump, Including : * Buu’s Atom Manipulation. In the manga, Buuhan is the strongest Buu and Pure Buu is weaker than Evil Buu. So, the GSK "weakend" Buu, but it ultimatley didn't matter. Due to the power-ups he received from Gohan and Gotenks and the boost to his intelligence he gained from Piccolo, Super Buu was stronger than ever. Pure Buu didn't have any better stamina than any of the other forms of Buu. Absorbing the Kais made Buu more docile, but not weaker. They say that as he turns into Buff Buu but then that goes away and he becomes kid buu, which is his original form with 0 beings absorbed. Now I dont get how kid buu is not the strongest buu. If Super Buu was a guy with a gun, then Kid Buu was a chimp with a gun. This^ Super Buu is leagues above Kid Buu in actual power. I have Kid BUU> SSJ3 Goku 1. He's losing absorptions, not gaining them. So when Buu reverted from South Kaioushin Buu to Pure Buu, he lost all the power South Kaioushin provided him, making him weaker by a considerable margin. I'd also guess his regeneration & endurance is even greater in his pure form due to not being "diluted" so to speak. There’s too many things that contradicts and debunks kid buu being the strongest Buu. Either way, I don't want to argue about Buu, because you will never convince me that Kid Buu is stronger than Super Buu.Ultimatessj1 03:03, April 7, 2014 (UTC)UltimateSSJ1. That's crazy, they both destroy him. 3. Super Janemba > SSJ3 Goku > Kid Buu. It should be noted that these statements about kid buu being the strongest are anime filler and non canon. In fact, I would say that Super Janemba is as strong as Super Buu or around that level. Super Buuhan would completely beat the living daylights out of Super Janemba until there was nothing left of him. Evil Buu 8. There's multiple indications that Kid Buu is stronger than Goku. So yeah, thats enough proof to me that kid buu is stronger than super buu and is the strongest buu. Super Buu and Fat Buu wanted to fight strong opponents and could at least be reasoned with somewhat, so they weren't as dangerous, but they're still both stronger than Kid Buu… Kid Buu is, at best, slightly stronger than SS3 Goku. Only reason stamina was a factor with him was because he was fighting against someone of equal level with him, where stamina would be an issue, and that it's indicated that only fighting another Buu causes Buu to lose stamina. Characters like Vegeta, Frieza, and Cell could be downright chilling at times, and it was always a thrill to see heroes like Goku taking on stronger and stronger foes.Because of this, it was a surprise when we first met his greatest foe, Buu. Kid Buu is stronger than Super Buu (Gohan… Neo Clon wrote: look at the tests that I gave are official 1. Kid buu is base buu, super buu is kid buu with south Kai absorbed. The Kid Buu saga had a lot wrong with it, with the series feeling a little long in the tooth at this point and the villain of Buu just not being nearly as compelling as Frieza or Cell were. The only feats Super Janemba has is beating up SSJ3 Goku, which proves him being stronger than Kid Buu. Super Janemba > SSJ3 Goku > Kid Buu. Then, South Kaioushin's influence also disappeared, resulting in him turning to Pure Buu. It is quite obvious that Akira Toriyama was not going to leave Kid Buu as the weakest since he is the last enemy It's just that by the time Kid Buu rolls around everyone who was strong enough to contend with Super Buu has been pushed off the stage, you have Vegeta still at Cell's level and Goku who's too exhausted to maintain SSJ3 long enough to get the win. Gotenks Buu 3. I encourage all of you to watch the entire video instead of just reading the title and then going straight to the comments. The only feats Super Janemba has is beating up SSJ3 Goku, which proves him being stronger than Kid Buu. Kid Buu was clowning SSJ3 Goku the entire fight and could have easily killed him whenever he wanted. It's just that by the time Kid Buu rolls around everyone who was strong enough to contend with Super Buu has been pushed off the stage, you have Vegeta still at Cell's level and Goku who's too exhausted to maintain SSJ3 long enough to get the win. We know Super Buu > SSJ3 Goku by such a margin that Goku refuses to fight him. This is even further affirmed in the DBS Manga recently about Kid Buu being suppressed during that fight. When super buu was transforming into kid buu vegeta clearly says "His power should be going down but instead its going up!". The show makes it perfectly clear. Pure Boo is relatively weak, it's his unpredictability that makes him dangerous. It should be noted that these statements about kid buu being the strongest are anime filler and non canon. The most you can do is argue a retcon happened. Copypasted from a comment on reddit. He's stronger than SSJ3 Goku and it was agreed by both Goku and Vegeta that Kid Buu was weaker. Super Buu is stronger than Kid Buu. Super Buu is significantly stronger than Kid Buu. Except it's pretty clear that Kid Buu is 100% not the strongest Buu unless somehow Goku reached Vegito levels. Kid Buu broke that tradition by being the first final form in a saga to be the weaker than a previous form. Also, I know that Fat Buu and Super Buu are made of the same beings, but so are Gogeta and Veku. Far more. No. Continue scrolling to keep reading Click the button below to start this article in quick view. Let’s face it: Buu looked like something of a joke character. In fact, I would say that Super Janemba is as strong as Super Buu or around that level. All of Hyper Buu and Super Kid Buu's Abilities. Because it's not really a transformation, it's a regression or a reverse transformation. Let’s face it: Buu looked like something of a joke character. Kid Buu 4. When super buu was transforming into kid buu vegeta clearly says "His power should be going down but instead its going up!" I don't understand how viewers struggle with this. Then when he reverted to kid Buu his power dropped dramatically. Now I dont get how kid buu is not the strongest buu. Buff Buu is stronger than Kid Buu by estimate SSJ Gohan's power. You're attributing the line to the wrong form. The only advantage that Rildo has is the ability to fuse with the planet, therefore having inumerous copies of himself, but since the planet doesnt have any ki, Rildo didnt get any stronger, just almost invencible (because of the tons and tons of metal on M2 that Rildo could use; which could be evaporised by Buu in seconds). A lot of people think Kid Buu is stronger then super Buu. A lot of it has to do with it being said Kid Buu is more dangerous than Super Buu. Kid Buu/Uub >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Super Buu, Buuhan, Buutenks, etc. Therefore, logically, a villain's final form must be their strongest. Also his output was far beyondwhat he absorbed could produce or maintain. But pretending that kid buu was god tier all along in the buu saga aint it famWell he and Goku were "God Tier" seeing as both were stronger than any of yhe Gods that came before and after Buu ate or killed them atleast in Z, all minus Beerus of course. Remember, this is the same Goku that admitted Super Buu was stronger than he is. Adding someone else's power to your own isn't going to make you weaker. He was pure evil but he was about the same power as ssj3 goku while super Buu was much stronger than ssj3 goku. It took the power of Super Saiyan Vegito (the Potara fusion of Goku and Vegeta) for Super Buu to be sufficiently challenged. As far as the original manga is concerned, Pure Buu was only the most troublesome form of Buu, due to his uncontrollable nature. At most, Kid Buu & EOS Goku could above Base Super Buu Which wouldn't contradict statements, as Base Super Buu is a more natural form then Buutenks and Buuhan are 27 days ago By comparison, Kid Buu was much weaker. No. South Kaioushin didn't weaken Buu, but instead made him stronger, as it was established that he was still pure evil after absorbing South Kaioushin and that it was only the result of him becoming less evil and gaining a "heart" that weakened him. The weird part is that Buu first lost an absorption that was lowering his power, making him stronger. That's a tough one. Dragon Ball Z was a show known for its great villains. Adding someone else's power to your own isn't going to make you weaker. Iirc, Kid Buu was even weaker than Fat Buu, but was insanely destructive to the point where he seemingly came out ahead. Round 2 is uub, who is a reincarnation of kid buu and thus has the same power plus mr. Shouldnt he stay in that form? Here is a small video of me discussing on why I think Super buu reverted back into Kid buu instead of they Grey Evil buu Super buu originally was. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Here is some proof to why that is wrong. blacklusterseph004, Aug 28, 2006. blacklusterseph004, Aug 28, 2006 #14. Kid Buu the biggest example as he casually shot a planet buster. Kid Buu has less power but no inhibitions, all he does is destroy and kill. But that's just a theory, nothing really to back it up and he does literally regenerate from smoke as Super Buu so who knows, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, A subreddit for all things Dragon Ball! So this also says that even though Kid Buu is much stronger than he was a birth, he is still weaker than Super Buu. I can at least understand why people debate Kid vs Super, but Kid vs Buuhan or Buutenks? Fat Buu Gohan Buu is far above Goku or Vegeta, at any Super Saiyan Level. Vegeta's wish didn't involve Gohan or Gotenks, whom, if they're actually stronger than Kid Buu, would've been more than adequate to effortlessly annihilate the guy. Either way, I don't want to argue about Buu, because you will never convince me that Kid Buu is stronger than Super Buu.Ultimatessj1 03:03, April 7, 2014 (UTC)UltimateSSJ1. Gohan's contribution to the Genki Dama obviously wasn't enough to destroy Buu by itself, which is … Dragon Ball Z was a show known for its great villains. Furthermore, Goku made it quite clear he thought he could beat Kid Buu, whereas he was afraid to even try fighting Super Buu. Here's how it works. You might learn something. If this was his strongest form why didnt Super Buu revert back to kid buu right away? His turn into Kid Buu helped change that a little, getting him out of the arrogant and overconfident mold that almost every villain in Dragon Ball Z seemed to be. Vegeta sensed "Buff Buu" which was Buu with the power of the Southern Kaioshin. At most, Kid Buu & EOS Goku could above Base Super Buu Which wouldn't contradict statements, as Base Super Buu is a more natural form then Buutenks and Buuhan are 27 days ago Kid Buu ≈ SSJ3 Goku < SSJ3 Gotenks ≈ Super Buu < Mystic Gohan. Hyper Buu Base. The only proof that says that Kid Buu is stronger than Super Buu is found within the old english dub and shoddy fan translations of … Vegeta's wish didn't involve Gohan or Gotenks, whom, if they're actually stronger than Kid Buu, would've been more than adequate to effortlessly annihilate the guy. When Mr. Buu was removed, Buu started burning through the influence that the two Kaioushin had within him. so if Gohan(who got destroyed in Earth's destruction) actually lived and fought kid buu, he would easily kill him? So yes, Super buu is stronger than kid buu, but he doesn't have the mentality of kid buu. Fat Buu was the one with the limit. I thought that Kid Buu was stronger than super buu (piccolo) seeing as when the fusion ended (gotenks) Goku SSJ3 was no longer worried about dispatching him. Characters like Vegeta, Frieza, and Cell could be downright chilling at times, and it was always a thrill to see heroes like Goku taking on stronger and stronger foes.Because of this, it was a surprise when we first met his greatest foe, Buu. all of them. Unlike his present counterpart who is weaker than Super Buu, Future Kid Buu is even stronger than Super Buu (w/ Gohan absorbed) and Super Janemba. Kid Buu/Uub >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Super Buu, Buuhan, Buutenks, etc. This is noted by the fact that Goku indicated they had succeeded in weakening him to where they could do something on their own, while being adamant that they couldn't beat Evil Buu ("Super" Buu) without fusing. 1. So, the GSK "weakend" Buu, but it ultimatley didn't matter. Kid Buu was clowning SSJ3 Goku the entire fight and could have easily killed him whenever he wanted. so without them he's weaker. the only buu weaker is "mr buu" the good fat buu that Vegeta ripped out of super buu's head. People get confused because Old Kai says that Buu got weaker from absorbing the other Kais in the English Dub, but I don't think this was stated in the manga, and it is nonsensical. By comparison, Kid Buu was much weaker. It wouldn't make sense if he was. Even with the combined might of the Present Z Fighters and their future allies, Future Kid Buu was not defeated until a Family Kamehameha or a Super Spirit Bomb (made of the energy gathered from people from Earth, New Namek, and Other World) was launched at him. hmmm. Messages: 2,789 Likes Received: 0 … Chapter: 514 (DBZ 320), P7.4 ... Buuhan and Super Buu are much stronger than Kid Buu During the final fight, power levels are like this: Gohan >>>>> SSJ3 Gotenks > Kid Buu (due to infinite regeneration) > SSJ3 Goku >>> SSJ2 Vegeta . When it's said that his power is going up, that's in reference to Buu transforming into South Kaioushin Buu, not Pure Buu. As far as I know.. Rildo wasnt even stronger than kid Goku SSJ. South Kai Buu is weaker because absorbing the Kais weakened Buu. However, the facts show Kid Buu really isn't more powerful than Super Buu after absorbing Gohan. Also, where was south kais powers all along? Also remember that Goku wouldn't even dare* fight Super Buu 1v1 but had no qualms about fighting Fat and Kid Buu. Kaioshin: “…First, two [Kaioshins] were killed…the North Kaioshin and the West Kaioshin….And then the South Kaioshin, the burliest and strongest one, was…somehow absorbed by Boo…..”, Elder Kaioshin: …And he become that huge Boo from before?“. I will even put Vegeta in there as well as Gohan. 26 days ago Super Buu 7. Final Ultima. There’s too many things that contradicts and debunks kid buu being the strongest Buu. Super Buu is stronger than Kid Buu. PLEASE WATCH BEFORE COMMENTING ___ Kid Buu Is The Strongest Non-fused Buu. It's a natural to believe that, because Kid Buu is the last form we see the heroes fight, he must also be the strongest form. Unless you think Base Super Buu somehow magically closed the gap between himself and … One needs to take note that the Kai version of the Buu arc was a very haphazard and rushed production, and where the earlier arcs stuck closer to the original manga more closely, the Buu arc was still heavily riddled with filler content that contradicts what appeared in the original manga. I have Kid BUU> SSJ3 Goku Maybe near SSJ2 Goku at the end of T.O.P. Gohan's contribution to the Genki Dama obviously wasn't enough to destroy Buu by itself, which is why Goku needed more energy. why tho? SS3 is about equal in raw strength to Kid Buu, but has serious stamina issues whereas Kid Buu has unlimited energy. South Supreme Kai Buu 5. All of his other versions did not seem to have that. discord.gg/dbz, Press J to jump to the feed. The show makes it perfectly clear. Could super buu use them? Kid Buu is just pure evil, but he doesn't have anyone's power. Gotenks Buu is well above SS3 Goku. We know Super Buu > SSJ3 Goku by such a margin that Goku refuses to fight him. The anime says that Pure Buu was the strongest form of Buu but this was never stated in the manga. Super Buu messes around a lot. Super Buu is more likely to hit someone, but Kid Buu is just going to keep firing that gun randomly and you'd be less comfortable standing in that room. So I just reached the part where kid buu was made. Every other time Buu absorbed someone he got more powerful. The first is that he's the final villain in the series. And why did they suddenly disappear during his transformation? 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